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Hi, new parent to Sugar the Syrian hamster and need some advice please.
We picked Sugar up Friday evening and she seems happy enough but is not making full use of her cage. My husband chose the cage, and in hindsight I should have stopped him! Sugar now only sleeps in the tunnels and uses them for the toilet.
Saturday we realised the bedding at the bottom wasn't deep enough so I have put lots more in and today I went and bought her a house to put at the bottom. Despite cleaning out the tunnels she is currently filling then back up with her bedding and food. I am thinking of buying some tunnel blockers but don't want to do too much too soon. I also know she needs a different cage but that will have to wait due to costs.
Any advice would be really appreciated.
Thank you.
 

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Hello and welcome :-) It's always difficult for the first few days when a baby hamster is adjusting to a new environment and not used to you yet. Sugar looks quite adorable there!

However, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the cage isn't really suitable or safe unfortunately. It's very annoying when pet shops sell these things and people think they must be fine because the pet shop sells them!

It's tall with muti levels and so has risk of injuries from fall risks. Hamsters can quite easily climb to the roof (usually at night when you're asleep) and monkey bar across the roof looking for a way out. And they're not very good at getting down once they've climbed up so they just let go and drop - it's quite a drop from the top to the bottom and they can bounce off hard shelf edges on the way down and get injured.

Even if she didn't do that, the layout means they can't have normal behaviours. If they have to climb to reach various things.

It's really good you've given her more bedding and a house at the bottom, because they are basically ground-dwellers and diggers.

You could adapt it a bit to make it safer but the floor area is still small so she doesn't have much roaming space.

Basically a cage needs a lot more floor space and less height. So they have most things at floor level. Maybe one shelf or platform and not too high. Then their nesting, foraging and hoarding and usual habits are all done at substrate level and they can dig and burrow down and behave more normally.

The tubes are also an issue because it confuses them so yes they end up sleeping or peeing in them. Sometimes they can grow and get stuck in the tubes as well!

Are you in the UK? Depending on where you bought it, what some people have done is take the cage back for a refund, even if it's been used, and just said - it isn't suitable for a female Syrian hamster - not big enough. Now to do that, ideally you need another cage first, to get the hamster settled into! So it's tricky.

Ideally you want something that's much wider and lower. About 100cm wide by 50cm deep and max 50 cm tall. And even then it might need adapting a bit with cardboard or perspex inside the bars (if it's a barred cage) so it can hold 8" of bedding. Although most will hold 6" which is about the minimum you'd want.

There are lots of options at various prices. And different options depending on if you're in the Uk or US or elsewhere! In the Uk for example, you can easily find a second hand Savic Plaza for about £40 and that's a good basic cage that ticks all the boxes. Some people make diy cages from ikea furniture :-) The Ikea pax wardrobe frame is only about £40. You tip it on it's back and it makes an enclosure. But then you need to do a big of diy to make a lid out of strips of wood and mesh (because the hamster will always find a way out without a secure lid!).

It's great you've given her more bedding. I would be tempted to try and block off the top part of the cage for now to reduce fall risks.

One way to do it is to take the top two shelves to much lower down, on the same level and put a piece of plywood or similar across them to make a false, lower roof - and just use the bottom two shelves.

Also just to add - we have all been there! My first cage was an abomination and I quickly found out when the hamster got cage rage and even looked depressed. I ended up upgrading him within 2 weeks!

So what you want really is an empty cage (except for maybe one shelf), no plastic tubes. Plenty of bedding, a house and plenty of larger tunnels and hides at floor level (cardboard is fine - eg pringles tubes or cut up tissue boxes). Or you can buy all kinds of nice willow or hyacinth tubes - it all adds enrichment for them and texture so that makes them happy! And you can get large cork tunnels as well which help fill up space and are good for ramps or to climb over. Plus she'd need an 11" or 12" diameter wheel or she could get back pain in a small wheel. Although short term that shouldn't do any harm, but she may stop using it if it's too small.

If you have a look on this thread, it might give some ideas :-)

 
Thank you so much for your reply, the information you have shared is really useful.
My husband bought the cage on Amazon so I'll get him to check their return policy. As you say, it really is my suitable for syrian hamsters, it's so wrong they can sell them stating they are!
I'm in the UK so will have a look on FB marketplace to see if I can get a second hand longer, wider, shorter cage!

Update: I've just found a Savic Plaza for £25 and will be collecting it ASAP!
 
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Oh that's great you found a Plaza and that's a really good price! Yes if it's Amazon you should be fine! Just put it back in the box after a wipe! Hope you kept the box :-) It is absolutely shocking that all kinds of things are sold as suitable for hamsters and they aren't! There's no proper legislation about it. But pet charities give out better information now (the Blue Cross and PDSA mainly). The RSPCA is a bit vague these days.

So when you move her across to the Plaza, you'll have to do it carefully or they get completely freaked out at another change. So the best tip is to not clean anything at all when you move her over. It'll be fine for a couple of weeks. It means everything still smells familiar and keeps their scent, so they settle again in a few days. A cold turkey move to all new and they can be quite stressed for a couple of weeks.

You'll need extra bedding as the Plaza has a bigger floor area. So something like an 85litre bag of Kaytee Clean and Cosy maybe? You can put that in the cage, and then keep all her current bedding and spread it on top, so it smells like home :-)

And it helps if you try and keep the layout similar - eg house on the right if it was on the right before, and wheel in the middle at the back or wherever it was before.

Do you need a wheel as well? The cheapest option is the plastic trixie 28cm wheel on amazon. I just stand that on top of the bedding and then tie the stand to the bars (although you need sisal string for that as normal string isn't safe to chew).

So I use this trio of balls :-) The hyacinth ball in the cage (you can stick treats under the folds) and the seagrass ball I use for string! to tie things to the cage. The wicker ball is a bit sharp and scratchy so I only use that in the playpen.

Trio of balls

Trixie 28cm plastic wheel - click here

There are quite a lot of other wheel options, but some are quite expensive these days and the trixie one is fine. One of mine has it. It's not totally silent though and there are some silent wheels.

This one is silent and also attaches to the cage bars so you can have it any height you want and it's secure. The bar attachment plates cost extra. My other syrian has this silent runner wheel and that is completely silent. It's a fiddle to put together at first but once it's together it's easy enough to clean! It'll probably last longer than the trixie wheel. But either is fine :-)

Silent Runner wheel

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Just looking at your second photo again. Is that fluffy bedding on the left under the shelf? Pet stores often sell that as well. If it is you'll need to remove it - it's really dangerous for hamsters - they try and pouch it and can swallow some and it blocks their digestive tract. There have been a number of campaigns to try and ban it! The best nesting material is just plain white toilet paper sheets, torn into strips. A big pile of them somewhere in the cage. Hammies then pouch the strips of paper and take them to where they're nesting and create a nest out of them :-)

Also I thought I saw her in one of the photos earlier, hence saying she was sweet - I'm not sure she's in the photos now - must be my eyesight :ROFLMAO:
 
Congratulations on your new hammy, lovely Sugar ❤️ Welcome to the forum! Yes, that would be a lovely, spacious cage with plenty of enrichment for rats and mice as they love to climb (signalled by their long tails) but hamsters traded their tails for burrowing (although Chinese hamsters still have some remaining tail) and although they can climb if they really want to, tend to fall heavily, unlike rats and mice, who are more agile. Hamsters really know how to dig though and can create huge burrowing systems with their immense energy.
The Plaza is a great cage, really bomb proof. You can get perspex panels for it that attach really easily with wing nuts and bolts and are convenient to use, even if you don't do DIY. You can get a full set or just a few panels in strategic places. Then hammy can't bar bite or bar climb, although not all hamsters do this. A company called Viking Lazer makes them specifically for the Plaza and they are great. Happy Henry Homes makes very nice little houses and sand baths and so on 🏡 if you are looking for furniture. But hamsters will live quite happily in cardboard boxes and will customise things like Quaker Oats boxes to their liking with great enthusiasm 💜
 
Oh that's great you found a Plaza and that's a really good price! Yes if it's Amazon you should be fine! Just put it back in the box after a wipe! Hope you kept the box :-) It is absolutely shocking that all kinds of things are sold as suitable for hamsters and they aren't! There's no proper legislation about it. But pet charities give out better information now (the Blue Cross and PDSA mainly). The RSPCA is a bit vague these days.

So when you move her across to the Plaza, you'll have to do it carefully or they get completely freaked out at another change. So the best tip is to not clean anything at all when you move her over. It'll be fine for a couple of weeks. It means everything still smells familiar and keeps their scent, so they settle again in a few days. A cold turkey move to all new and they can be quite stressed for a couple of weeks.

You'll need extra bedding as the Plaza has a bigger floor area. So something like an 85litre bag of Kaytee Clean and Cosy maybe? You can put that in the cage, and then keep all her current bedding and spread it on top, so it smells like home :-)

And it helps if you try and keep the layout similar - eg house on the right if it was on the right before, and wheel in the middle at the back or wherever it was before.

Do you need a wheel as well? The cheapest option is the plastic trixie 28cm wheel on amazon. I just stand that on top of the bedding and then tie the stand to the bars (although you need sisal string for that as normal string isn't safe to chew).

So I use this trio of balls :-) The hyacinth ball in the cage (you can stick treats under the folds) and the seagrass ball I use for string! to tie things to the cage. The wicker ball is a bit sharp and scratchy so I only use that in the playpen.

Trio of balls

Trixie 28cm plastic wheel - click here

There are quite a lot of other wheel options, but some are quite expensive these days and the trixie one is fine. One of mine has it. It's not totally silent though and there are some silent wheels.

This one is silent and also attaches to the cage bars so you can have it any height you want and it's secure. The bar attachment plates cost extra. My other syrian has this silent runner wheel and that is completely silent. It's a fiddle to put together at first but once it's together it's easy enough to clean! It'll probably last longer than the trixie wheel. But either is fine :-)

Silent Runner wheel

Silent runner cage attachments
Brilliant, thanks again for your help and advice.
I've ordered the trixie wheel, balls and had the bedding on order already. I'm picking up the cage later this evening so once my delivery arrives tomorrow I can get it ready for Sugar for tomorrow evening.
We haven't got the box for the original cage but we're going to try and send it back anyway!

Yes that is sugar in the first pic, not your eyesight going mad 😂
 
Congratulations on your new hammy, lovely Sugar ❤️ Welcome to the forum! Yes, that would be a lovely, spacious cage with plenty of enrichment for rats and mice as they love to climb (signalled by their long tails) but hamsters traded their tails for burrowing (although Chinese hamsters still have some remaining tail) and although they can climb if they really want to, tend to fall heavily, unlike rats and mice, who are more agile. Hamsters really know how to dig though and can create huge burrowing systems with their immense energy.
The Plaza is a great cage, really bomb proof. You can get perspex panels for it that attach really easily with wing nuts and bolts and are convenient to use, even if you don't do DIY. You can get a full set or just a few panels in strategic places. Then hammy can't bar bite or bar climb, although not all hamsters do this. A company called Viking Lazer makes them specifically for the Plaza and they are great. Happy Henry Homes makes very nice little houses and sand baths and so on 🏡 if you are looking for furniture. But hamsters will live quite happily in cardboard boxes and will customise things like Quaker Oats boxes to their liking with great enthusiasm 💜
Ooh those panels sound great - thank you 🙂
 
Just looking at your second photo again. Is that fluffy bedding on the left under the shelf? Pet stores often sell that as well. If it is you'll need to remove it - it's really dangerous for hamsters - they try and pouch it and can swallow some and it blocks their digestive tract. There have been a number of campaigns to try and ban it! The best nesting material is just plain white toilet paper sheets, torn into strips. A big pile of them somewhere in the cage. Hammies then pouch the strips of paper and take them to where they're nesting and create a nest out of them :-)

Also I thought I saw her in one of the photos earlier, hence saying she was sweet - I'm not sure she's in the photos now - must be my eyesight :ROFLMAO:
Yes, fleece hides are also fine for the playpen, but it is better to use cardboard or wood in the cage in case they chew up the fleece and it gets into their digestive system and doesn't digest the way natural fibres would. She is peeking out, lovely 🥰
 
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Brilliant, thanks again for your help and advice.
I've ordered the trixie wheel, balls and had the bedding on order already. I'm picking up the cage later this evening so once my delivery arrives tomorrow I can get it ready for Sugar for tomorrow evening.
We haven't got the box for the original cage but we're going to try and send it back anyway!

Yes that is sugar in the first pic, not your eyesight going mad 😂
I think as long as it's in some kind of box you should be ok sending it back! Sugar is absolutely going to love the Plaza and the Trixie wheel :) It also comes with a shelf (if yours comes with the shelf) and you have the wood house (just check that over and make sure there are no nails sticking out anywhere!). Hopefully she won't chew the house, but keep an eye on that because they are made with nails! You can get some that aren't made with nails but I wouldn't worry about that just now - plenty of people have those rough bark houses without any issues.

So with the shelf and house and wheel and maybe a cardboard floor tunnel and one of those balls you would maybe only need to add a couple more hides. We could suggest a few things but it all starts to cost! Hence cardboard hides or pringles tubes (wiped out) are fine. With Pringles tubes though, I pull the silver foil out of the middle. It's quite easy. Once you've cut the metal end off you'll be able to get hold of one corner of the foil and then just gently pull and it all unravels and comes out in one piece :) Basically for Syrians you need rat sized things! eg tunnels at least 7cm in diameter. Anything sold for hamsters is usually only big enough for little dwarf hamsters. But there are some good places to get things.

One of my favourite places is a site called Hamsters We Love. I'll link it below. They only sell hamster safe things :-) Be careful though it can be tempting ha ha.

One thing it would be good to buy though is some sprays. These are basically grain stalks - like millet, flax etc. You just stick them in the substrate and they look like little trees. They have a few functions. One is to ensure the hamster doesn't feel too exposed - they are prey animals so can often feel a bit nervous about being out in the open (especially when they're babies) unless there is plenty of cover. Things to dive under or behind. Then they start to feel more secure and are out and about more. The other thing is they add some enrichment and it's something for them to nibble and have some normal foraging behaviours. Something to do!

I do get mine from Hamsters we love. The only thing with anything like sprays (and hamster food and any treats that aren't human grade) is it's a really good idea to put them in the freezer for a week before using. This kills off any mite or bug eggs that could hatch out!

Particularly with hamster food. Unfortunately virtually all hamster food (and other pet food) contains moth eggs. Don't panic it is rare that anything hatches out. Only if it gets very warm sometimes. But freezing it for a week kills any moth eggs (I speak from experience there ha ha).

If just getting a few sprays then red sorghum, millet and flax would be a good start :-)


One thing you might want to get is a litter tray though. The corner litter trays work well. You put it where the hamster decides to pee. Which is often a corner of the cage. With sand in. Although the sand is a bit expensive, it lasts a very long time. Needs to be the right type of sand! Any sand sold for hamsters is usually ok. So then the sand soaks up the pee and you just empty the litter tray once or twice a week. Most Syrians will use a litter tray - but only if you put it in the place they've decided is a toilet! It keeps the cage clean and dry and then it doesn't need cleaning out much. It's only their pee that is unhygienic. Aside from that they are really quite clean little things and like doing a bit of housekeeping themselves - refurbishing their nest etc.

You don't need to worry about poops really. They are not dirty or smelly. They're like little hard seeds. Sometimes they actually eat them (which is normal). They have two stomachs and can redigest nutrients etc from their poops! So unless they start taking over the cage, don't worry about them and then you can just pick them out/spot clean them out.

Cleaning is a whole other topic. But basically - you don't need to do big weekly clean outs. The more bedding you have, the less often you clean out and you mainly just need to spot clean (ie take out the odd handful of substrate and replace it with a new handful).

Big clean outs really stress them. So partial ones are better (ie don't clean everything at the same time). Using a litter tray minimises the need for it too.

Baby hamsters will sometimes pee in their nest though, until they get into more grown up habits - so then that area does need cleaning out a bit, but it's best to try and leave a little bit of the old nest behind (with their scent on) that's dry - even if it's slightly whiffy. And the same with their hoards. Best to leave their hoards along (they can be left quite a long time), unless they've peed on it as well. Then it needs removing. But then you need to put a handful of new food back where the old hoard was. They can get REALLY upset if their hoard disappears - replacing it helps settle that.

Anyway these corner toilets are inexpensive and work well. One of mine was very neat and used to pee in the very back corner then sit in the front part and have a wash.

Trixie corner toilet

For sand, either of these are ok. Not cheap but it's quite a big bag

Sand 1

Sand 2
 
I think as long as it's in some kind of box you should be ok sending it back! Sugar is absolutely going to love the Plaza and the Trixie wheel :) It also comes with a shelf (if yours comes with the shelf) and you have the wood house (just check that over and make sure there are no nails sticking out anywhere!). Hopefully she won't chew the house, but keep an eye on that because they are made with nails! You can get some that aren't made with nails but I wouldn't worry about that just now - plenty of people have those rough bark houses without any issues.

So with the shelf and house and wheel and maybe a cardboard floor tunnel and one of those balls you would maybe only need to add a couple more hides. We could suggest a few things but it all starts to cost! Hence cardboard hides or pringles tubes (wiped out) are fine. With Pringles tubes though, I pull the silver foil out of the middle. It's quite easy. Once you've cut the metal end off you'll be able to get hold of one corner of the foil and then just gently pull and it all unravels and comes out in one piece :) Basically for Syrians you need rat sized things! eg tunnels at least 7cm in diameter. Anything sold for hamsters is usually only big enough for little dwarf hamsters. But there are some good places to get things.

One of my favourite places is a site called Hamsters We Love. I'll link it below. They only sell hamster safe things :-) Be careful though it can be tempting ha ha.

One thing it would be good to buy though is some sprays. These are basically grain stalks - like millet, flax etc. You just stick them in the substrate and they look like little trees. They have a few functions. One is to ensure the hamster doesn't feel too exposed - they are prey animals so can often feel a bit nervous about being out in the open (especially when they're babies) unless there is plenty of cover. Things to dive under or behind. Then they start to feel more secure and are out and about more. The other thing is they add some enrichment and it's something for them to nibble and have some normal foraging behaviours. Something to do!

I do get mine from Hamsters we love. The only thing with anything like sprays (and hamster food and any treats that aren't human grade) is it's a really good idea to put them in the freezer for a week before using. This kills off any mite or bug eggs that could hatch out!

Particularly with hamster food. Unfortunately virtually all hamster food (and other pet food) contains moth eggs. Don't panic it is rare that anything hatches out. Only if it gets very warm sometimes. But freezing it for a week kills any moth eggs (I speak from experience there ha ha).

If just getting a few sprays then red sorghum, millet and flax would be a good start :-)


One thing you might want to get is a litter tray though. The corner litter trays work well. You put it where the hamster decides to pee. Which is often a corner of the cage. With sand in. Although the sand is a bit expensive, it lasts a very long time. Needs to be the right type of sand! Any sand sold for hamsters is usually ok. So then the sand soaks up the pee and you just empty the litter tray once or twice a week. Most Syrians will use a litter tray - but only if you put it in the place they've decided is a toilet! It keeps the cage clean and dry and then it doesn't need cleaning out much. It's only their pee that is unhygienic. Aside from that they are really quite clean little things and like doing a bit of housekeeping themselves - refurbishing their nest etc.

You don't need to worry about poops really. They are not dirty or smelly. They're like little hard seeds. Sometimes they actually eat them (which is normal). They have two stomachs and can redigest nutrients etc from their poops! So unless they start taking over the cage, don't worry about them and then you can just pick them out/spot clean them out.

Cleaning is a whole other topic. But basically - you don't need to do big weekly clean outs. The more bedding you have, the less often you clean out and you mainly just need to spot clean (ie take out the odd handful of substrate and replace it with a new handful).

Big clean outs really stress them. So partial ones are better (ie don't clean everything at the same time). Using a litter tray minimises the need for it too.

Baby hamsters will sometimes pee in their nest though, until they get into more grown up habits - so then that area does need cleaning out a bit, but it's best to try and leave a little bit of the old nest behind (with their scent on) that's dry - even if it's slightly whiffy. And the same with their hoards. Best to leave their hoards along (they can be left quite a long time), unless they've peed on it as well. Then it needs removing. But then you need to put a handful of new food back where the old hoard was. They can get REALLY upset if their hoard disappears - replacing it helps settle that.

Anyway these corner toilets are inexpensive and work well. One of mine was very neat and used to pee in the very back corner then sit in the front part and have a wash.

Trixie corner toilet

For sand, either of these are ok. Not cheap but it's quite a big bag

Sand 1

Sand 2
A huge thank you again, you are certainly a fountain of knowledge!
I'm going to put the cage together tomorrow and hopefully Sugar will like it. 🤞🏻
 
A huge thank you again, you are certainly a fountain of knowledge!
I'm going to put the cage together tomorrow and hopefully Sugar will like it. 🤞🏻

I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for looking into getting good care for Sugar! It sucks that pet stores sell unsafe items and often don't have good advice. Many first time hamster owners learn the hard way, I did too on plenty of things.

Hoping we get to see the setup and some footage down the road! Welcome to the forum, there's some knowledgeable hamster owners here
 
So I've moved Sugar into her new cage tonight. It took a lot longer than I thought so I think she was a little stressed before going in. She's had a really good sniff around and appears to be enjoying the digging! I think it will take her a little while to adjust as it's obviously longer than what she's use to and she's trying to climb the bars. I took all the advice given regarding putting her old bedding in so hopefully it will just be a matter of time before she's more relaxed 🤞🏻
 

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Ooh she'll love that! I can see her properly now. She looks curious! Assume the wheel hasn't arrived yet? She might go a bit stir crazy without a wheel! You could maybe add a bit more "clutter" in places - so she has a few things to do (or destroy!). Cardboard egg box cartons seem popular with female syrians - they seem to like shredding them :-)

The little pouch hide on the shelf - if that's fabric, it would be better taken out as they can chew them. They are better used for out of cage time where you can keep an eye on that :-) IF they chew them they can get cotton stitches wrapped round their teeth (or legs) and swallow some of the wadding. So it's best not to have fabric items in the cage.
 
Thanks, I'll go up and take it out now. The wheel has just arrived so I'll put it in tomorrow. I may need to take the shelf out though as I'm not sure both will fit. I'll also get my egg box out the recycling!
 
I would leave the shelf personally :-) She will like to go under and on it as well. At least for now. I usually have the wheel at the back of the cage, next to the shelf. You could maybe turn the house around so the entrance points towards the middle of the cage, to make a bit more space at the back? I have my hamster's house that way round :-) Or have it in the front right corner, also turned round so the door is pointing to the middle. Then you'd have plenty of space at the back for the wheel.

It could take a week or two for her to settle fully now. I'm sure she'll settle in soon. Keep us posted!
 
They love making a cave under the platform, so she will probably nest there. She is such a pretty girl. They inspect and scent mark and explore as prey animals need to know where everything is in case they need an escape route or two ❤️
 
Oh that's great you found a Plaza and that's a really good price! Yes if it's Amazon you should be fine! Just put it back in the box after a wipe! Hope you kept the box :-) It is absolutely shocking that all kinds of things are sold as suitable for hamsters and they aren't! There's no proper legislation about it. But pet charities give out better information now (the Blue Cross and PDSA mainly). The RSPCA is a bit vague these days.

So when you move her across to the Plaza, you'll have to do it carefully or they get completely freaked out at another change. So the best tip is to not clean anything at all when you move her over. It'll be fine for a couple of weeks. It means everything still smells familiar and keeps their scent, so they settle again in a few days. A cold turkey move to all new and they can be quite stressed for a couple of weeks.

You'll need extra bedding as the Plaza has a bigger floor area. So something like an 85litre bag of Kaytee Clean and Cosy maybe? You can put that in the cage, and then keep all her current bedding and spread it on top, so it smells like home :-)

And it helps if you try and keep the layout similar - eg house on the right if it was on the right before, and wheel in the middle at the back or wherever it was before.

Do you need a wheel as well? The cheapest option is the plastic trixie 28cm wheel on amazon. I just stand that on top of the bedding and then tie the stand to the bars (although you need sisal string for that as normal string isn't safe to chew).

So I use this trio of balls :-) The hyacinth ball in the cage (you can stick treats under the folds) and the seagrass ball I use for string! to tie things to the cage. The wicker ball is a bit sharp and scratchy so I only use that in the playpen.

Trio of balls

Trixie 28cm plastic wheel - click here

There are quite a lot of other wheel options, but some are quite expensive these days and the trixie one is fine. One of mine has it. It's not totally silent though and there are some silent wheels.

This one is silent and also attaches to the cage bars so you can have it any height you want and it's secure. The bar attachment plates cost extra. My other syrian has this silent runner wheel and that is completely silent. It's a fiddle to put together at first but once it's together it's easy enough to clean! It'll probably last longer than the trixie wheel. But either is fine :-)

Silent Runner wheel

Silent runner cage attachments

Just to say we have this Trixie wheel and it clips onto the cage too really securely so doesnt need to be tied! Chumley loves it. Maz is right it isnt totally silent but his cage is downstairs so its fine!
 
Just to say we have this Trixie wheel and it clips onto the cage too really securely so doesnt need to be tied! Chumley loves it. Maz is right it isnt totally silent but his cage is downstairs so its fine!
That's great if you got it clipped to the cage :-) Some people have managed that, by taking the stand off. Others find the stand won't come off at all! I've never managed to get it to clip to the bars :ROFLMAO:
 
That's great if you got it clipped to the cage :-) Some people have managed that, by taking the stand off. Others find the stand won't come off at all! I've never managed to get it to clip to the bars :ROFLMAO:

We still have the stand on it too, it's just buried under a layer of bedding! (it's kind of suspended mid way up the cage if that makes sense!) It's a little hard to clip on but once it is it's very secure
 

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