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How to freeze and debug hamster food and items

So glad for this thread, I adopted a hammie and thought I did all the research, until I found bugs in my babies food!! Ugh
I ordered new food and it just came in, so I am going to freeze it. I have food from etsy to hold him till I freeze at least 48 hours so I can get a little
Out and keep rest in freezer.
Thanks for information.
 
It's a total pain isn't it?!
 
One you've frozen for 48hrs, it should be good to be kept in an air tight container. It used to be an ongoing joke in our house that the freezer held more hamster food than human. 🙂
 
Do we need to freeze wood shaving bedding also? To prevent any mites
 
Most people don't freeze bedding.
 
Can someone help me understand why freezing for a week is any different than freezing over night?
 
I think the longer freezing time zaps any eggs as well as the adult bugs 🐛
 
🐹 I've only just seen this thread. I have frozen hay, moss, and baked cork bark, but never anything else. I'm really surprised to find it's a good idea to freeze practically everything before introducing it in to the hamster's home. Food, treats, the lot. Wow! I've got some food coming today for Kage. I hope the food I have will last for another week or he'll end up with hamster food flavoured iced lollies! Brrr!
 
Can someone help me understand why freezing for a week is any different than freezing over night?
It's a good question. It's because they are usually pantry moth eggs (Indian Meal moth). And the information out there about killing pantry moth eggs is freeze for a week. Some hamster sites say freeze for 2 days, which would probably kill most bugs but not necessarily pantry moth eggs. Having had two pantry moth outbreaks in the past, I stick with a week! 48 hours just doesn't quite do it. There is actually a theory that you should freeze for 2 days, unfreeze to room temperature again for a few days, and then freeze again. From what I understand, 24 to 48 hours would just make them dormant, but a week is enough to kill them. It does make a big difference!

The only time I had an outbreak after freezing food it was very very minor and was nipped in the bud quite quickly. So even with freezing it's possible the odd egg might escape.

Unfortunately all pet foods, apparently, contain moth eggs. They are not visible to the human eye, and they do no harm, unless they hatch out! It is in particularly warm temperatures that they can hatch out. Eg in very hot summer weather (with a warm hamster sitting on them). Or in winter with high heating on.

If they do hatch out, they do no harm to the hamster. But they breed very quickly and end up all over the house and in food cupboards, once they start breeding.

The first time I had it, it took many months to get rid of them and was a huge amount of work and had to throw a lot of flour and sugar and other foods away.

If you do get any hatching out in the cage, a full cage clean is needed, with every crevice of the cage disinfecting, and everything in it replacing or sanitising, or they just keep hatching out. So it's best avoided as that's stress for the hamster.

Tell tale signs are a moth inside the cage, or a moth or two on the wall above the cage. A female pantry moth can lay two hundred eggs a day - on your wall or curtains. In the worst case scenario there are maggots crawling all over the ceiling!

So I religiously freeze everything for a week - any hamster food, treats, wood items etc. Some wood items and cork logs can be baked instead.

Having said that - many people never have an issue. I didn't have any issue for the first year of keeping a hamster - I think it was a particular bag of hamster food that set it off (before I knew about freezing food). Which was in a kitchen cupboard and open.

So good practice to prevent this is

1) Freeze the food for a week
2) Then keep it in an airtight container (eg a lock and lock box - those are the only ones that are completely airtight apparently) Then if anything did hatch out it's contained!

The same with hay - anything with hay should be frozen as it can contain tiny mites or mite eggs.

Since people have been freezing food and hay etc, you don't hear so much about it. Telltale signs in a cage are webby stuff in a corner or little maggoty things - that's before a moth hatches out.

Don't worry about it though - just freeze the food, sprays, hay etc :-)
 
And if you haven't been doing it before - don't worry - it's probably fine and not really hot at the moment.
 
Thanks, Maz. I did some reading up, and makes sense that the eggs can survive freezing for some period of time. Seems freezing for longer durations may not even fully deactivate them, just reduce life length or number of organisms. Will do for food and natural things coming. Lab/Rat blocks, as well?
 
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Hmm - lab/rat blocks aren't really great. It's just soya isn't it for protein? At one time, US owners did use lab block with a hamster mix to boost the protein but not so much these days. If a hamster mix needs the protein supplementing, it's better to give fresh human food or things like freeze dried shrimps or freeze dried chicken bites. For human food - chopped boiled egg, scrambled egg, even the odd bit of chicken or beef if you happen to have roasted a chicken (no gravy, spices, salt or pepper or skin though - just plain chicken). Or half a walnut or two a week (which they love anyway).

Which hamster mix is she on?

Yes there is a theory that to kill the moth eggs fully the food needs freezing for a couple of days, then leaving somewhere warm so the eggs start doing what they do to produce larvae, then freezing again to kill them. But that sounds like a real faff. Freezing for a week does it for most situations :-)
 
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