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Supplements & supplementary foods

I thought I’d just say a bit about some of the extras & supplements I use or have used with the hams.



Evening primrose oil.



This is something that’s really good for coat & skin condition mainly, it can be given to hams of all ages & is compatible with pretty much all hamsters mixes.

It’s something I give to all my hams as a maintenance supplement but if you choose not to do that it can be especially beneficial with any conditions like itchy skin or hair loss or just loss of coat condition that may occur sometimes.

The ideal dose for a Russian or Chinese is half a drop a day, I would think a drop a day would be fine for Syrians.

Giving half a drop can be a bit difficult unless you’re using soft foods you can mix it with but the vet I originally discussed this with years ago said that giving a drop a day or every other day would also be fine.

When I’m not giving any soft foods I used to mix some up with some porridge oat flakes & keep it in the fridge giving them a few flakes a day.

With soft foods I just make enough porridge or whatever I’m using for two days & add one drop.

You can use the capsules & pierce them but it’s messy & wastes a lot so I buy one for dogs that comes in a dropper bottle, it is a bit expensive but lasts a long time & keeps well.



Flax seeds (linseed)

I expect most of you are already familiar with this one, giving a tiny pinch a day or using the sprays has lots of health benefits.

For skin & coat issues or maintenance flax is most beneficial given alongside EPO, they work together really well rather than just using one or the other.



Another supplementary food that I have always used is buckwheat, it has lots of macro & micro nutrients that can really boost health & I’ve found all but one of my hams has loved it.

I use it unshelled, it often looks like they haven’t eaten it until they realise they’ve left you lots of empty shells to tidy up! I also sprout it & give a few sprouts daily with veg.

I think this is compatible with all diets if you only give small amounts, unless of course your ham mix already contains, often the German mixes do.



Probiotics.



Probiotics can be very helpful in maintaining general health & immunity as well as being particularly beneficial if you have a ham on antibiotics or other meds.

Also useful at times of stress which could be anything from adjusting to a new home, vets visits or anything else that my cause an individual ham stress which can impact the immune system & probiotics can help to counteract that.

It’s really down to personal choice & which probiotic you use whether you give this for maintenance or just with meds or health problems.



The most widely available is ProC.

Personally I wouldn’t recommend giving this regularly as with the extra vitamin C it is aimed more at guinea pigs & rabbits rather than hamsters & it does also contain sugar (glucose or dextrose I think).

I know some people use Bene bac, I don’t have any personal experience with this one so can’t comment but do remember from looking at it that working out the dose can be a bit of a pain.



My personal choice is the Doctor Squiggles potent brew.
Potent brew

The dose is easy to work out, for a Russian hamsters it’s usually one or two drops but you can adjust it depending on the weight of your ham.

Maintenance is once a week but it can be given more frequently, I have even used it daily when on antibiotics or other meds.



Vitamins & minerals.



If you’re using one of the more natural (German type) mixes or even making your own I would recommend some additional vitamins but if you use a mix that has some vitamins added then be cautious or avoid them or only use if your ham is sick & this is something you could discuss with your vet.

Water soluble vitamins are normally easily excreted if there’s a bit too much in the diet but fat soluble vitamins tend to get stored & can be harmful.

I can really give any definitive times other than illness when you might want to add extra vitamins but I think many of us know when our hams just aren’t quite right or may need a bit of a boost & supplements can be useful then.

This is only my personal choice & not something I’m saying all hams should have.

For younger hams I use Doctor Squiggles Tiny Animal essentials.

easy to use, just the tiniest of pinches on dry or wet food.
Tiny animal essentials
For older hams which really depends on the individual but anything from 18 months to 2 years may be considered older I use Senior.
Senior
My routine for healthy hams is a teeny pinch of either of these five days a week, potent brew one day a week & I also use calcivet powder once a week too. This used to be available only as a liquid & the dose for a tiny ham was impossible to figure out & totally impractical but now it’s available in a powder form it’s easy to. use, as with the vitamins just a teeny pinch.
Calcivet
Dr S products are also available from Ratrations & probably other places too.

It’s hard to judge how beneficial or not some of these things are so I can only say that I’ve used most of these for years now with no ill effects & a general improvement in health so maybe something worth thinking about.



I’m a bit rusty these days & am pretty sure there are other natural foods & supplements I’ve recommended but can’t think off hand, probably come to me if someone asks a question a health issue arises but that’s all I can think of for now!

Hope that’s useful anyway.
Does anyone feed milk thistle seeds? Nibbles loves them. My vet told me to feed them as a treat, of course not daily. They are excellent for the liver and full of vitamins and nutrients. As Nibbles is picky I was happy to see that he loved these seeds. I take them myself, so I already had them at home. I also checked on dried Butterfly pea flowers. Apparently they are also suitable for hamsters and healthy. I drink the tea a few times a week. I have not tried these yet, as I think it might be too much. He was only used to standard hamster food. I am a bit confused that he will not eat meal worms and would appreciate if someone could advise me an alternative. I read about freeze dried chicken, should I try this?
 
They are good for hamsters yes :-) They are often included in some of the mixes with the most variety as part of their daily diet. I haven't heard of Butterfly pea flowers to be honest - is it just a flower from a variety of pea? Some hamsters don't like mealworms. If it's for topping up protein then personally I prefer fresh human food - a bit of chopped hard boiled egg goes down well (or scrambled egg without milk), and the occasional half a walnut goes down a storm. Nuts are good for protein as well, but not too often. Monkey nuts are popular. You start a little hole at one end the shell and the hamster cracks it open to get the peanuts.

There has been a lot of debate about freeze dried chicken on here. Because most of it is raw, and we thought it was unsafe, but one member recently did some great research on two particular brands and found that although they were raw, they were pasteurised so safe. It's on this thread

 
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They are good for hamsters yes :-) They are often included in some of the mixes with the most variety as part of their daily diet. I haven't heard of Butterfly pea flowers to be honest - is it just a flower from a variety of pea? Some hamsters don't like mealworms. If it's for topping up protein then personally I prefer fresh human food - a bit of chopped hard boiled egg goes down well (or scrambled egg without milk), and the occasional half a walnut goes down a storm. Nuts are good for protein as well, but not too often. Monkey nuts are popular. You start a little hole at one end the shell and the hamster cracks it open to get the peanuts.

There has been a lot of debate about freeze dried chicken on here. Because most of it is raw, and we thought it was unsafe, but one member recently did some great research on two particular brands and found that although they were raw, they were pasteurised so safe. It's on this thread


They are good for hamsters yes :-) They are often included in some of the mixes with the most variety as part of their daily diet. I haven't heard of Butterfly pea flowers to be honest - is it just a flower from a variety of pea? Some hamsters don't like mealworms. If it's for topping up protein then personally I prefer fresh human food - a bit of chopped hard boiled egg goes down well (or scrambled egg without milk), and the occasional half a walnut goes down a storm. Nuts are good for protein as well, but not too often. Monkey nuts are popular. You start a little hole at one end the shell and the hamster cracks it open to get the peanuts.

There has been a lot of debate about freeze dried chicken on here. Because most of it is raw, and we thought it was unsafe, but one member recently did some great research on two particular brands and found that although they were raw, they were pasteurised so safe. It's on this thread

I looked to see if hamsters can have butterfly pea flowers, they look similar to dried corn flowers, this is what I found:

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I drink the tea regularly, it’s also supposed to be good for reducing stress and preventing cancer. But I haven’t found valid results on that. I drink it in the evenings when I have had a stressful day at work 😅
 
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Just re the mealworms @Amy - my hamster didn’t seem to like them when I first offered him one by hand but I scattered some in his beech chips and he seemed to enjoy finding and picking them out, and he’s converted.

(The mix I have for him now actually contains meal worms so it’s just as well!)
 
Just re the mealworms @Amy - my hamster didn’t seem to like them when I first offered him one by hand but I scattered some in his beech chips and he seemed to enjoy finding and picking them out, and he’s converted.

(The mix I have for him now actually contains meal worms so it’s just as well!)
I Germany the mix I ordern at the seed farm gives you various options of dried insects. But they deliver the seeds and the insects in separate bags. They say it’s better to store them separately. I put the worms in his food bowl and with seeds to forage. He picks them up, sniffs them pulls a funny face and throws them away. He clearly thinks they are disgusting. I will try again soon.
 
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I Germany the mix I ordern at the seed farm gives you various options of dried insects. But they deliver the seeds and the insects in separate bags. They say it’s better to store them separately. I put the worms in his food bowl and with seeds to forage. He picks them up, sniffs them pulls a funny face and throws them away. He clearly thinks they are disgusting. I will try again soon.
Well that’s pretty decisive! 😆 there are definitely things that Mr Maggie absolutely will not touch in his mix so if say it’s definitely possible that your wee guy just simply does not like mealworms!
 
Well that’s pretty decisive! 😆 there are definitely things that Mr Maggie absolutely will not touch in his mix so if say it’s definitely possible that your wee guy just simply does not like mealworms!
Mind you they do stink 😂 I don’t blame him. But he did eat a tiny bit of strawberry yesterday and he loves his food and especially the milk thistle seeds
 
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I also think some mealworms stink! And I think that's one of the fun quirks of a barred cage - when hamsters throw things out through the bars :LOL:. They can toss out food items they don't like and have been known to hurl poops out through the bars as well (sometimes to get attention I think). I think it's so funny! Some mealworms seem to smell worse than others. I just stopped buying them. The Bunny Dream mix has them in but theirs don't smell bad. It's probably the smell he doesn't like. Mind you none of my syrians have liked dried bugs in mixes - and turn their noses up or look horrified. But they all like scrambled egg! Which German mix are you using? I get this one from Mixerama. The protein level is not bad at 16.5%, so only needs supplementing a bit and then no supplementation needed once they're over a year old. It used to cost me a fortune in shipping ordering it from Germany, but thanks to @Yorkie I now know I can get it in the Uk from Hopes Healthy Treats. It doesn't look as nice in real life as it does on the picture! Everything looks more brown in real life. But the hamsters love it - especially the dried courgettes it seems. And the mealworms don't smell bad either that I've noticed. I started getting it because their foods are pressure treated to kill bug eggs and moth eggs (having had moth outbreaks twice before), but I still freeze it as well for belt and braces! It also contains milk thistle seeds. It does contain red clover, so if it was for a female syrian I would get their Goldhamster base mix instead and add your own protein (but Mr Maggie is a boy!).

 
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I also think some mealworms stink! And I think that's one of the fun quirks of a barred cage - when hamsters throw things out through the bars :LOL:. They can toss out food items they don't like and have been known to hurl poops out through the bars as well (sometimes to get attention I think). I think it's so funny! Some mealworms seem to smell worse than others. I just stopped buying them. The Bunny Dream mix has them in but theirs don't smell bad. It's probably the smell he doesn't like. Mind you none of my syrians have liked dried bugs in mixes - and turn their noses up or look horrified. But they all like scrambled egg! Which German mix are you using? I get this one from Mixerama. The protein level is not bad at 16.5%, so only needs supplementing a bit and then no supplementation needed once they're over a year old. It used to cost me a fortune in shipping ordering it from Germany, but thanks to @Yorkie I now know I can get it in the Uk from Hopes Healthy Treats. It doesn't look as nice in real life as it does on the picture! Everything looks more brown in real life. But the hamsters love it - especially the dried courgettes it seems. And the mealworms don't smell bad either that I've noticed. I started getting it because their foods are pressure treated to kill bug eggs and moth eggs (having had moth outbreaks twice before), but I still freeze it as well for belt and braces! It also contains milk thistle seeds. It does contain red clover, so if it was for a female syrian I would get their Goldhamster base mix instead and add your own protein (but Mr Maggie is a boy!).

I bought the food from a German seed company, it’s a small company but he loves the mix. It’s called the Futterkrämerri. But it is expensive. They also have flower and vegetable mixes. I bought a variety

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I've heard of them I think :-) The main mix needs to contain everything needed, but the flower mix could be good for forage. Which one do you have? I looked at the Original Goldhamster menu and it does seem to contain a lot of lentils.
 
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I've heard of them I think :-) The main mix needs to contain everything needed, but the flower mix could be good for forage. Which one do you have? I looked at the Original Goldhamster menu and it does seem to contain a lot of lentils.
Oh thank you, yes that’s the one i ordered, so he’s getting a bit of protein then
 
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The lentils do give protein but tbh I'm always a bit wary of a mix that relies on lentils for protein. They are not digested well by hamsters, and it's thought can prevent the absorption of other nutrients. If the hamster actually eats them. If he doesn't eat them you could supplement the protein with something else. Some people give 2 or 3 science selective pellets daily as well to ensure nutrition and protein levels with non commercial mixes. Personally I won't use a mix with lentils but others do and don't seem to have had issues. As long as they're getting nutrients and protein elsewhere.
 
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The lentils do give protein but tbh I'm always a bit wary of a mix that relies on lentils for protein. They are not digested well by hamsters, and it's thought can prevent the absorption of other nutrients. If the hamster actually eats them. If he doesn't eat them you could supplement the protein with something else. Some people give 2 or 3 science selective pellets daily as well to ensure nutrition and protein levels with non commercial mixes. Personally I won't use a mix with lentils but others do and don't seem to have had issues. As long as they're getting nutrients and protein elsewhere.
They do say you must add insects to the food, you get the choice one you select the food of which insects you want. They deliver them separately in a bag to then add to the food.
 
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They do say you must add insects to the food, you get the choice one you select the food of which insects you want. They deliver them separately in a bag to then add to the food.
So I bought monkey nuts and sunflower seeds today and fresh lettuce…. Let’s see if he turns his little nose up at these treats 😂
 
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